Elaine Gan - ANT Expert interview

Elaine Gan - expert interview.


Elaine Gan is an artist-scholar who combines theory, research, and creative practice, and engages with the fields of digital humanities, visual arts, science & technology studies, and environmental anthropology.

  1. How will you reward ppl for trying to figure out the system

  2. How will you show change over time and convey this to ppl who just got there

  3. If this is political then how long do you thing this impact will last on ppl who interact with the system?

We talked about using more salient ways to indicate (mainly visually since sonic is not very clear maybe?) that the human interacted w the system in a cooperative and fruitful way. “Making connections and specialities visible”

  • Color changes

  • Words becoming more intelligible over time

  • Change of water levels (tubes?). She seemed to really like water as a medium.

Examples of systems thinking and turning institutions on their head Hans Haacke

She suggested ways to show systems thinking and showed me an example of the Rhine river purification artwork from the 70s.  A tank w purified water that sustained goldfish in a gallery.

I kinda want to make an AR game that encourages us to literally save prices. Like, pull squirrels out of quicksand etc. sort of comical but the opposite of the violent ways in give we currently treat other species.

A really relevant example was SuWappu by this company called Bers in England. It’s an early AR game with animals that visually tell stories of the environment they live in.

She also suggested that if I do want to tell a story then it would be food to storyboard this experience.  This would show a series of actions and help reveal the different kinds of relationships that I want to show within the system.

Said ATM isn’t a theory. This is why Latour rejected it ultimately. It’s just a set of methods. Suggested reading John Law. She also gave me a paper to read by a quantum physicist that she had just talked about In her class. The value of this paper is - and I have not gotten to read it yet as I only received it yesterday - is that it shows how relationships can come before the solidification of concrete entities. The idea that everything is connected and that unions are temporary etc. from what I understand. And this makes sense considering she was so interested in water as a medium. I’m sure if my project was made of mycelium it would also be more accurate in a way. I think there may be a disconnect with my discreet objects and the notion of everything being conducted. It is sound that binds everything in my work but that may be too subtle. She thinks ppl in New York are always surrounded by noise and that sonic changes are too minute.

Hans Haackle Rhine water purification plant 1972.

Hans Haackle Rhine water purification plant 1972.

From Elaine Gan’s website.

From Elaine Gan’s website.